Report: GOP will oust Paul Ryan if he sides with Donald Trump over Robert Mueller

If Donald Trump follows through on his vague threat to fire Special Counsel Robert Mueller, the move would look so bad that it would send Trump’s already historically low approval rating further into the gutter. Numerous House Republicans would begin feeling compelled to stand apart from Trump in the hope of avoiding getting wiped out in the midterms. And they’re reportedly adamant enough about it that they’re willing to oust Speaker Paul Ryan if he sides with Trump.

Democratic Congressman Adam Schiff predicted earlier this week that if Trump fires Mueller, Congress will simply bring back the Independent Counsel statute, and appoint Mueller to be right back in charge of the Trump-Russia investigation, with broader powers. It’s not difficult to see where Schiff gets his confidence from on this issue: only around ten percent of the Republicans in Congress would need to join with all of the Democrats in order to make it happen. But that’s where Paul Ryan comes in.

Speaker Ryan has been consistently wishy washy with regard to Donald Trump, seemingly afraid to stand too strongly with or against him. Would Ryan try to prevent an Independent Counsel bill from coming to the House floor? According to political insider Puesto Loco, “Sources tell me there’s enough House GOPers who’ve pledged that if Trump fires Mueller & Ryan interferes rehiring him, Ryan will be ousted.” (link).

It’s important to point out that this is only a single-sourced report that has not been corroborated elsewhere. But while some anti-Trump members of the general public are fearful the Republican Congress is willing to stick with Donald Trump no matter what, the political reality is that they’d sell Trump out in a heartbeat if they conclude it’s their own best shot at getting reelected. It stands to reason that they’d sell out Paul Ryan as well.


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20 Comments

  1. Diane Conroy on June 18, 2017 at 1:01 am

    Bill, I getting the general idea of this report, but wondering if I’m reading it wrong. They will oust Ryan if he sides with Trump, then later you say if Ryan rehires Mueller, he will be ousted? Thanks for your work

    • Bill Palmer on June 18, 2017 at 1:07 am

      They would Ryan if he interferes with Congress rehiring Mueller.

  2. Claudia on June 18, 2017 at 1:03 am

    I do not know why they just don’t nullify this election.
    After 39 states being tampered with. No one person will ever convince me , the votes weren’t.
    This needs to be nullify, and still invesgate Trump and the gang.

    • Roger on June 18, 2017 at 8:21 am

      Amen! Maybe Bill P can start on that idea.

    • Jane on June 18, 2017 at 10:40 am

      Because there’s nothing in our Constitution or our laws about nullifying an election. It only has the chain of succession. Given that we’re fighting to protect our constitution from Trump and friends, this needs to follow the Constitution itself.

    • Some Guy on June 18, 2017 at 11:14 am

      I have not heard of any legal mechanism for doing that. Maybe we need one, but we can’t come up with it on the spot, and with republicans in control of Congress, I would be suspicious of any they did come up with.

    • gene cetrone on June 18, 2017 at 1:15 pm

      With (R)s in total charge of the House and Senate, nullification will not happen.

      • Bill Palmer on June 19, 2017 at 4:09 am

        Nullification does not exist under the Constitution, so it would have to be ordered by the Supreme Court. They’re the only ones with the power to make up anything they want. There’s probably a 99.99999% chance they won’t do it, because although the Supreme Court has the theoretical power to rip up the Constitution like that, it’s incredibly difficult to imagine they’d do it.

        • Claudia on June 19, 2017 at 3:09 pm

          But Bill
          If 39 states were rigged and proven so would he electorals
          Even if all judges are Republicans,, they very well may say yep, it’s nullify.
          Nice dream. But why not?

    • Rapas Ulsio on June 18, 2017 at 1:34 pm

      Who would nullify the election? What would be the Constitutional basis for nullifying the results of a federal election?

      • Claudia on June 18, 2017 at 8:33 pm

        Rigged election??

      • Roger on June 18, 2017 at 10:34 pm

        Make on up. Republicans would.

        • Roger on June 18, 2017 at 10:34 pm

          I meant make one up. Republicans would.

  3. Winston on June 18, 2017 at 7:19 am

    Ryan will save himself, scurry off this sinking vessel, like the like rat he is!

  4. Roger on June 18, 2017 at 8:17 am

    I and Bill P and many others knew before Trump was elected that he has been a mobster all his life and that Trump being POTUS would end this way. I’m surprised it has taken this long. As for the rest of the family, they’re all cut from the same cloth. All they care about is money.
    Thanks for your diligence, Bill.

  5. viola on June 18, 2017 at 12:13 pm

    Voting interference in 39 states seems like it should nullify the election or else necessitate voting again in states that have been found to have had interference. GOP would be against this, but this is what the inquiry may find. As it stands seems GOP want to keep the results from the tainted election. Not on.

  6. Eileen Styles on June 18, 2017 at 2:15 pm

    Wish Ryan would make up his mind where he stands, instead of jumping all around in hopes of landing where it would be beneficial for him. When will all wake up to do the right thing for the country not the party.

    • Bill Palmer on June 19, 2017 at 4:06 am

      Never. Paul Ryan has survived this long by accurately calculating when to cowardly bail on his own failures. I’m not saying he’s going to survive this one; he may be in too deep. But if you’re expecting Ryan to do the right thing, it would only happen out of coincidence. He’ll do whatever he thinks is best for himself.

  7. Rapas Ulsio on June 18, 2017 at 2:59 pm

    The math is spot-on for passing an independent counsel bill–just 10% of Republicans would have to be on board.

    But if Trump has the chutzpah to fire Mueller, I don’t see any reason why he wouldn’t veto the bill. Congress could still override the veto, but the math is no longer so friendly at that point. To get the 2/3 of the House necessary to override a veto, you’d need over 40% of the Republicans on board. An override in the Senate would also require almost 40% of the Republican senators.

    • Bill Palmer on June 18, 2017 at 7:46 pm

      Keep in mind that at each of these steps, Trump’s approval rating would instantly plummet even further, meaning that more Republicans in Congress would be willing to turn against him.

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